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by Jeff Oehlsen on 13 July 2007 - 04:07
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Don . i acknowledge you last statement. .. HMMM... - RE: comment tracking means s>> ---- Oh my goodness . One of the reasons I still respect Sch ...: if anyone wants to understand Canines .. better yet any canine that works -- you would UNDERSTAND .. if you wnat to know the dog .. know the NOSE ..-- the NOSE is the key to the Canine/GSD !! That is one reason why I do not dismiss Sch so fast .. even though the Protection phases are more of a challenge to the GSD in other sports [ yes the helper is not thewre to merely present a sleeve or an article but is to vie against the dog]. Even in my training classe I always educate the novices about the nose [ and also the hearing abilities . Goodness .. the GSD can wind scent a half mile away pending parameters.
Ok, here is another interesting way of thinking. If you want a scenting dog, go get a hound. I am not sure I am getting this across correctly. Mals have not been bred with any thought of tracking, yet they are out there doing it no problem.
I do not want a GSD to be a Mal, I am discussing what the original poster wanted to discuss. Someone ( BUt take you MR dog and lay a track and tell me what happens. Thought so. zdog) brought up the subject that Mondio did not have tracking, and I am pointing out that tracking is not a viable test the way that it is presented in sch, because if it was, then the Mal who historically has not been tested in ring for this, should not be able to do so. My point is that the Mal is out there tracking, and beating the GSD who has historically been tested for tracking.
In short, Tracking means shit. LOL
(Now, it is up to you sueincc to provide a discussion proving me wrong.)
by sueincc on 13 July 2007 - 04:07
Look , I tried to be nice, but with you thats impossible. I am not new to dog training & I sure as hell don't need the likes of you telling me what to sit out . Go on with your bad self & keep up the crap. You are nothing more than a bully & a sad sack.
by sueincc on 13 July 2007 - 04:07
Jeff, you argue just to argue. You are like a tiresome little boy.
by Jeff Oehlsen on 13 July 2007 - 04:07
OK, and let me clarify this for the slow one, (thanks sueincc) I am not prefering the mal to the gsd, I like them both and have them both. Using the Mal in my point of view was appropriate because the dogs are not bred according to tracking prowess, like suddenly their nose is just gonna fall off, and they cannot scent anymore. LOL
by sueincc on 13 July 2007 - 04:07
So typical, as soon as someone disagrees with you, you start in with the bullying & name calling. Grow up.
by Puputz on 13 July 2007 - 05:07
Actually I've seen Jeff state in other boards that he prefers the GSD or something, Mal is just better for his purposes. Which is very tame compared to the bashing the GSD gets from some Mal people.
by GSDfan on 13 July 2007 - 11:07
Jeff says "If you want a scenting dog, go get a hound. I am not sure I am getting this across correctly. Mals have not been bred with any thought of tracking, yet they are out there doing it no problem."
LOL, C’mon!! A fucking mutt can track, it’s the inherent trait of the CANINE!!
As far as I’m concerned is if you are getting your ass off the couch and working your dog (in whatever) KUDO’s to you. I really think this is getting redicuolous, both have their strengths and weakenesses and should be given respect. I think people like Zdog and 4Pack have contributed the most by truly attempting to answer the title of this thread with descriptive examples. I'd love nothing more than to try it all.
Everyone has the right to their opinion...it's not about being right or wrong. Let's be nice here folks...put your dicks and your rulers away! LOL
My Opinon...
I personally have had such an issue with tracking. With my dog it has been the hardest phase. As a patrol dog the only “tracking” he did was for suspects… so for me he was very fast and could care less about the bait (food on the track), not a good combo for slow, methodical, footstep to footstep SchH tracking. Therefore in MY OPINON any sport without tracking could NOT be harder than SchH, LOL!!
Minus the tracking for a harder protection phase = EASIER for ME (and this particular dog)!
Yours in the SportS,
Melanie
by Jeff Oehlsen on 13 July 2007 - 13:07
QUOTE: LOL, C’mon!! A fucking mutt can track, it’s the inherent trait of the CANINE!!
So there it is. I rest my case.
(besides, Sch tracking is an OB exersize : ) )
by sueincc on 13 July 2007 - 15:07
Oh you are too funny, big bad Jeff. I don't care whether you think I've contributed or not. Now you bring up your old song about having been in dogs longer than anyone. Sad, no one knows you, you've done nothing, oh but you've been around longer than Ivan (hiding under a bridge) - you are a legend in your own mind.
by Jeff Oehlsen on 13 July 2007 - 16:07
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Oh you are too funny, big bad Jeff. I don't care whether you think I've contributed or not. Now you bring up your old song about having been in dogs longer than anyone. Sad, no one knows you, you've done nothing, oh but you've been around longer than Ivan (hiding under a bridge) - you are a legend in your own mind.
Song and dance??? Longer than Ivan?? I cannot remember writing that. How does this pertain to tracking? or Mondio? or Sch???
Funny, you sound a lot like Cath, the non contributor. And of course you care, if you didn't you wouldn't respond. As far as doing something, what does "doing something" entail??? Does "doing something" mean that I would have a different opinion?? I have done a lot of things, and I know a lot of people, maybe just not the ones that you know. How about you tell me how well known you are??????
I am sure that will add so much information to this thread. Like I said before, you need to sit this one out. This newfangled thinking is way too far above your head.
However, I have always been a legend. Just not in Dogs. Sorry to disappoint.
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